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A.P. FUCHS and MIKE PHILBIN - CONVERSATION 2

A couple of years ago, Canadian writer A.P. Fuchs and British writer Mike Philbin (aka Hertzan Chimera) had a little chat, one that examined each other’s approach to writing, their views on the industry and life in general. After speaking, the two went their separate ways and have barely spoken since. During that time, Fuchs went on to spend a lot of time in cemeteries and telling stories about the zombies he saw in his book, Blood of the Dead, while Philbin took on the corporate world in his novel, Bukkakeworld.

Recently, the two bumped into each other again, and after an initial handshake, sat down on a curb outside an old Irish pub and talked well into the night.

Here’s what was recorded:

A.P. Fuchs: So, Mike, long time no see. Been keeping busy?

Mike Philbin: No. I’ve never been the “busy” sort. I more of a meanderer. An URL grazer. A scatter-gatherer. A lay-about, in common parlance. By the way, how’s Canada, with NAU (the North American Union) on the way and effective lock-down of movement in and out of the country?

A.P. Fuchs: So far, so good, but with the NAU being en route and, frankly, expected (I’m into Bible prophecy and End Times theology—all that’s happening on the world stage is of zero surprise to me, even the present economic crisis; just kind of going through the motions right now), I am wondering on the “when” part of it. Off the top of my head, I can’t remember if a firm date has been set for the NAU or not, or if it’s just going to be a “someday” thing for now.

What’s more interesting to me is, when that happens, how the Amero will come into effect. Obviously, it won’t be overnight. There has to be some kind of ease-in, say, with both the Amero and then the regular Can/US/Mexico dollars in play till the latter gets booted out.

Do you remember how the Euro was introduced?

Mike Philbin: There was a lot of OUTCRY across certain parts of Europe when the Euro was introduced to the EU, mainly because people don’t like change—there was a similar outcry when we went decimal after post-war decades of duo-decimality. In fact, here in UK, seventeen years after Maastricht, we still don’t use the Euro. We are the bad boys of Europe, surely. I wonder when we’ll be made to pay for our non-compliance. Anyway, the thing that worries me a little about the New World Order’s match sheet is THERE ARE TOO MANY OF US. I mean by this, that’s the government propaganda that they spew at us all the time.

Of course, like the great Global Warming (CO2 is evil) scam; it’s just that. A scam, a lie, a corporate mechanism to make money off our very breath. There’s been, for a number of decades now, a concerted plan to ERADICATE mankind from the corporate arena—mankind truly is excess to the globalist plan (though I realise how hard this is to accept). They’ve already started work on it in Africa with their AIDS-polluted-polio jabs. They’ve already done it in America with AIDS-polluted-Factor 8. They’ve smashed sovereign states like Argentina and Iraq without a single iota of concern for human suffering. They put toxic fluoride compounds in drinking water across the globe and mercury in our teeth and vaccines, fact.

How can that be “ethical”? Well, in the light of the very assumed Apocalypse Culture they’ve blanketed themselves in, they think it’s all for the good of the Earth. They’re Neo-Druids, in a sense, worshipping some unseen Gaia to the detriment of the grotty masses whom they’ll sacrifice to her glowing pagan image. Did you know the New World Order were pagans in disguise? All this talk of religion on the mainstream media has nothing to do with the ruling elite. It’s all another lovely scam to dumb the masses even further. They use our money like it’s their own, they trade our National Insurance numbers as collateral for their corporate wars. As you can imagine, I’m a little angry about this. It’s taken me eight years of research into the 9-11 false flag operation to really see Big Picture and I’m not totally convinced Big Picture has even really been witnessed yet, certainly not in the mainstream media, which is nothing but a Big Brother Propaganda Arm of the Corporate Elite Military Industrial Complex.

NAU is double-plus good—NAU has always been double-plus good. Can you hear the Huxleys and Orwells spinning round and round in their graves, guffawing at the top of their rotten lungs?

A.P. Fuchs: The duplicity that goes on in the “powers that be” drives me nuts on some days. I say “some days” because on many of them—and given our present world climate of every Tom, Dick and Harry for themselves—government self-agenda is of zero surprise. Yet, on others, I become a bit of an idealist and a part of me weeps at the idea that those we trust who are above us are merely just using us to achieve their own ends.

To touch on what you said about climate change, is the forthcoming Copenhagen conference in December. On the surface, it’s being touted as something to address the global warming issue, but according to Christopher Monckton, who is the science adviser to Margaret Thatcher and a leading climate change critic, he says the real agenda is for leaders to discuss global governance.

Like I mentioned before, all of this global governing stuff is of no surprise to me, but at the same time, the part of me that wants to be entertained knows he’s going to be in a for a real good show once the NWO really kicks into effect.

I look back on human history and, man, I tell you, though it most certainly hasn’t been a perfect run, humanity as a whole seemed to have it more together up until the 20th century. Sure, there were empires and oppression and all the rest, but this is the first time we’re seeing the formation of something similar on a global scale. Global compared to local (even federal) is a huge difference.

I have my own ideas as to how this will all play out, but I’m curious as to what you think might be a “deadline”—for lack of a better word—for all this to take shape? Personally, I’m in the 5-10-year camp.

Mike Philbin: Five to ten years? I think you’re being a little optimistic there. My “deadline” for the New World Order criminals having license to pull the REALLY WORST SORTA GLOBAL S*** THEY’LL EVER BE ALLOWED TO DO by You The People is December 2009. They’ll be doing an amazing LIVE UPDATE on False Flag hegemony with their mandatory flu vaccination death sentence for 80% of the people on this planet. They’ll tie it in with a MASSIVE cyber attack based on Ptech artificial intelligence software. They’ll tie it in with a MASSIVE smart grid attack in the chill of Winter. Watch out for major virus action around the time of the Winter Olympics in Canada, January 2010.

I’ve featured Lord Monckton a couple times on my BLOG (http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com) and you’ve got to wonder, “What are people actually doing to secure a SAFE & TRUSTED world for their grand-children?” They’re doing nothing, at all. And I think, at some point, it’s gonna have to be time for those who DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE to just hunker down and protect whomsoever they can i.e. their families and close friends. The rest, well, we all know what happened in Nazi Germany. We all know what’s happening now such as the CIA shipping so-called “terror suspects” to places like Uzbekistan to TORTURE fake confessions out of them to reinforce the War On Terror and influence corporate legalese (laws) behind enemy lines.

It’s a really messed up world. Why, A.P., why do you think hardly any horror writers on the Shocklines Forum (http://shocklinesforum.yuku.com) will face up to the fact that THE U. S. of A is being GUTTED and there’ll be insane scenes of desolation on the streets in the New Year—what the Global Elite have planned for the USA will make what happened in Argentina look like a Bank Holiday. The New World Order are gonna raze that once-great nation to the ground. Why don’t more writers talk about their love of humanity and their hatred of FOR PROFIT corporate wars? Is it the computer games MILITARY SIMULATION mentality that’s just herding these sheeple towards their obvious demise, en masse?

A.P. Fuchs: I think Americans in general are in a place of being overwhelmed, with the financial crisis being at the forefront. We felt it here in Canada, but it was nowhere near what happened in the U.S. That said, when one’s mind is so focused on one overwhelming thing or object, other stuff just kind of flies past the radar. I know, I’ve been there in other ways in my life.

What I’m finding interesting is it seems the Obama phenomenon has died down in the U.S., but seems to be growing on an international scale instead. I mean, the Nobel Peace Prize? For what? Worse, being the Chair for Security at the UN? He obviously hasn’t really delivered much so far in his presidency—aside from mandatory flu shots—so I’m curious to know what folks at the UN know so that they want him in a seat of power over there.

Strange times indeed.

So, let’s jump ahead a touch—the NWO kicks in then it’s, what, militarized states? Do-what-we-say-or-we’ll-kill-you living conditions? Follow-our-system-or-forever-be-a-bum?

To me, once the NWO kicks in, there would be only one way to control the world and that would be through money, the whole “We control the finances—and type of finances—and either you use it or you’re doomed” idea. Of course I’m referring to the Mark of Revelation, a one-world currency system where no man can buy or sell without it. We have the technology for it. It just needs implementation.

What I’m curious to see is how it’ll take effect on a global scale. I think macro-consolidation is the key, i.e. the NAU, the EU, etc. and then, once you have those, glom those together under one umbrella. See, having a single currency can work on a regional and/or national level, but globally? Something’s gotta happen first so that major poverty-plagued countries can be on par with superpowers like the US or Canada. But that day is coming. It’s just a matter of the in-between stuff of going from A to B.

Mike Philbin: Well, the New World Order (for some reason) seems to need the “legal permission” to act under the umbrella of Global Government. I think as long as we REFUSE them that right over our lives (and we all have to do this, all SIX.SIXsix BILLION OF US) we will survive. If we allow the New World Order to rule us, globally, they’ve already decided there’s too many of us and that means AT LEAST FIVE BILLION DEATHS as soon as they are legally capable of it. Seriously, I think the NWO are such scumbags, and they’ve proven this in the past by throwing any number of carrots under the nose of the masses as they think they need to for total compliance to their science of mass destruction. Remember how they promised the Jews at Auschwitz that they were just “taking showers”?

A.P. Fuchs: ’Kay, wait, back it up a sec. In short, the gist of what you just said is, “People in power who want more power are taking over and when they do they’re going to kill everyone unless we give in to their tyranny.” Did I get that right?

If they killed everyone on the scale you’re talking about, where’s the profit in that? No peasants, no king.

I agree a dark future awaits, but it’ll be a different one than a mere man/single government-in-power-we-do-as-he-says environment.

Or did I miss something?

Mike Philbin: Nah, it’s all a blag—it’s gonna be fine. “Fear not, corporate human, your elected leaders will look after you. No worries. And September 11th didn’t involve Ptech software and the Mossad are a load of mates who’d never get involved in such foul play—it was a few Arabs in some caves wot did it—that and 7/7 London, and 11/3 Madrid. This has nothing to do with War Of Terror and global control.” Unquote.

As far as your “global population threat” no, I don’t think that’s how it will go. The threat, I mean. The threat implies some sort of salvation. These globalists, look them up, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and their gang, look up where their money’s FINALLY going. Eco-science. The Gaia Earth. They’re all into organic and sustainability. They don’t want people. They don’t NEED people any more because they’ve already RAPED THE INFRASTRUCTURE and by that I mean Bail Outs of 30 TRILLION have already secured their world for them—look up Eden Project and see how comfortably they’ll live on the corpses of our children.

What do you think you’ll write about in the coming years, my good fellow? I’m gonna write some derivative soaps and see if Rupert Murdock’s clone won’t help me make them into worthy global distractions from the ANNIHILATION. Oops, no, as you said. It won’t happen. The NWO needs us, right? They’re not RIGHT NOW destroying all trace of productivity on this planet, right? They’re not right now eradicating the dollar, right? They’re not right now arranging to inject the world with deadly toxic virus—they’ll neuter every single one of us!

A.P. Fuchs: Corporate human. Funny. No, what I said was it doesn’t make sense for those in power to kill off everyone. Why? So those few that are left can run around the planet with a lot of open space and yell, “We’re free! We’re free!”? The NWO does need us in the context of a group of people to lord over. Again, one has no power unless there are those below them on the economic and influence scale.

What am I gonna write about in the coming years? After I finish the boatload of stuff that’s presently on my plate, and besides continuing with my superhero series, The Axiom-man Saga, I probably will touch on—possibly even delve into—NWO-esque stories, something that would mirror the times we’re heading into. I’m convinced we’re nearing up on a time of major global power-shifting and a very prominent rise in spiritual or even supernatural occurrences despite militant atheists fighting for otherwise. But I’m a crazy Christian so that’s to be expected, I suppose.

Personally, I really don’t care what others think of me. I’ve tried walking to the tune of pleasing other people and it dragged me down so low that that ruined me. Marching to my own drummer has made a huge and positive impact on my life. You?

Mike Philbin: I’d rather be creative WITHOUT BOUNDARIES and WITHOUT BRANDING than go along with the shrieking masses and the writer-mob themselves’ expectations of any genre where the most banal and tedious literary/cinematic tricks constitute so-called mainstream entertainment. This truly is a dumbed-down uninformed populace at the moment; look around and watch these zombified sheeple go about their daily grind like there’s no other way.

I seriously believe that the so-called Global Elite look down upon mankind as a dog would look down upon his coat of fleas—he’d do anything to scratch that seething black mass from his skin. And that’s where the problem lies—the globalists BELIEVE (like a religion) that theirs is the right way, the manipulation of the financial markets is a worthy lifestyle and it’s all in a day’s work to screw over the competition. As I stated in my “Progress Without Profit” (http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009/09/progress-without-profit.html) post, “The earth is our playworld. As long as we don’t abuse it, it will feed, clothe and shelter us. All of us, forever.”

I’d like to think that at some point we won’t go down the path of Nazi Germany (looking the other way while the minorities, the dissidents, the thinkers are carted off to Death Camps), but I don’t see much in the way of hope for the future of mankind. One or two people are awake around the world but it’s not enough yet to effect any real change. My Silverthought books, Planet of the Owls (look up the owl imagery at Bohemian Grove) and Bukkakeworld (see how the corporation spits in the face of every human every day) and the Chimericana Books anthology Chimeraworld #6 (new world disorder, when the people strike back against the Global Elite), were attempted wake-up calls for those millions who are still in light slumber, or perched precariously on the revolutionary fence.

We can only do what our hearts (or our consciences) tell us, we can only do so much. At some point, Planet Earth has to wake up to the tyranny before your planet as you know it is no more. Man is one greedy beast and power corrupts absolutely. Remember that.

A.P. Fuchs: I most certainly agree with that last part.

What’s bizarre about all this stuff is the absolute blindness of folks to this spiraling-out-of-control world. More specifically, in terms of people “going along with things.” Even in the past ten years I’ve seen an incredible increase in people’s willingness to just go with the flow, to please one another and themselves regardless of cost, crying out for the steady approval of others as if that is more important rather than self-realization and individuality.

I blame the media, and not just newspapers or broadcasts, but also the technology that brings news, ads, reports, items of interest and entertainment. Face it: we live in a sit-back-and-relax world, one that’s suffering from a bring-on-the-good-times-and-fun-to-me-so-I-don’t-have-to-think complex.

We’ll save that for our next talk, should we bump into each other again, but, yeah, if people become drones, they’re much more easier to control.

God help us all.